User talk:Cretog8

Re: Portal updating

Hi Cretog. Sorry about the delay in my response. I'm in central Asia and my access to Wikipedia has rather limited. I'm at the airport now. I was thinking of just posting messages on the relevant wikiproject talk pages each month to remind people to suggest articles, but I think your idea of creating a type of guideline is far more useful. It's far better if we more people involved. Anyways, let's hammer this out soon. I'll be back to regular internet tomorrow, hopefully, if my plane isn't delayed again. Cheers --Patrick (talk) 12:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Patrick--No need to apologize. I hope your travels are fun (and/or profitable). CRETOG8(t/c) 15:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Example of a game with no value

Hello Cretog. Would you cast your informed eye over Example of a game without a value? I'd appreciate some comments. Best wishes, Robinh (talk) 13:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Robin--I'm slow to get enough brain power to focus, but will shortly. CRETOG8(t/c) 17:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you by any chance have a PDF of Sion & Wolfe that you could mail to me? CRETOG8(t/c) 05:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

The tag up top is right, it does need more context. I'm afraid as the article stands someone might decide to remove it as not being notable. Just an "example" might not be enough for an article. Game theory's likely a backwater, though, so it might not happen. Anyway, context in the form of either how it fits in the broader theory or how it's applicable as a model of something would be good. In fact, if either of those come up, then maybe it should become a section of another article. Anyway, only skimmed cuz my brain is thick, but it looks pretty good. I'll look more. CRETOG8(t/c) 06:14, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

It might be that the thing to do is to make a section in Zero-sum which includes continuous-strategy (and/or discontinuous payoff) games. The stuff currently in the zero-sum article is currently not quite right, and could use clarification anyway. CRETOG8(t/c) 20:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello again Cretog. I do have a copy of Sion (PDF) right here. How best to send it to you? Robinh (talk) 20:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Robin--To the left there's an "E-Mail this user" option. Or you can do it here. That doesn't look like it will allow attachments, but if you email me, we can exchange email addresses so you can send it. CRETOG8(t/c) 22:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Response

I've placed an answer on my talk page. Of course please let me know if I need to flesh it out or somesuch. —SlamDiego 20:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

moving article and talk page confusion

Help Me Question

I moved the article Economic imperialism to Economic imperialism (economics), and then changed the page which was now just a redirect to point to Neocolonialism instead of Economic imperialism (economics).

Seemed like a good idea at the time. Now, awkwardly, the "discussion" tab on (the redirect page) Economic imperialism goes to Talk:Economic imperialism (economics). That seems a minor problem for now, but I think at some point someone should make a real article at Economic imperialism, and then it will be a real problem.

Help? CRETOG8(t/c) 12:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I removed the talkpage redirect. ^{Talk or C} 14:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you did now--I keep forgetting that a talk page is just another page, and so thought it would be mechanically different. Next time I'll know better. Thanks! CRETOG8(t/c) 14:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Reditrects

Commendable clean-up job on the above for links to Ei(e). I din one for Economics imperialism. Someone else did one for Cultural economics. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 22:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope someone comes and actually creates a proper "economic imperialism" article. Anyway, little things like that bug me, so I'm glad it's better organized. CRETOG8(t/c) 23:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Austrian economics on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Economics

Hi there,

I thought you would like to know that we are trying to hammer out a consensus about Austrian economics on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Economics. Please drop by and leave your comments.

thanks, lk (talk) 16:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Five Percenters

I replied on my talk page. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

D&D articles for Wikipedia 0.7

Hi there!  :)

As someone who's worked on D&D and/or RPG articles before, I'm inviting you to participate in our goal to both improve articles that have been selected to be placed in the next Wikipedia DVD release, as well as nominate more to be selected for this project. Please see the WikiProject D&D talk page for more details. :) BOZ (talk) 18:30, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Persistent, disruptive editing by User:Vision_Thing

Hi Cretog, when you're back from your break, please leave a message here. 11:48, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello Wikidea--I appreciate the heads-up, and also your predicament. I'm going to beg out of this particular conflict for the moment though. I may come to regret it as VT and I have butted heads in the past and likely will again. But I'm not up to it now. I will try to watch and participate on specific edits. CRETOG8(t/c) 22:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Nobel Prize

It has been discussed a number of times and consensus reached to "Nobel Prize in Economics". [1] --Hapsala (talk) 19:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

True, it's been discussed a number of times. You refer to a discussion which is two years old. The discussion which was one year old determined to rename it to "Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences". It's had that name for about a year. A new discussion is appropriate if you want to move the article. I'll start the conversation on the talk page, although geez it's annoying to keep repeating this. CRETOG8(t/c) 19:48, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that one (or possibly two) individuals could establish consusus regarding the renaming of Wikipedia articles.... --Hapsala (talk) 00:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, this discussion is much more complete. I was working primarily from a status-quo bias. The previous title had been there for a good long time and so (to my eye) was effectively consensus without further discussion. CRETOG8(t/c) 00:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Hapsala (talk) 18:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Arthashastra comments

understood. i apologize.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.222.213.137 (talk) 22:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

'deletion--what's the problem? explain at talk'

Perhaps the briefest of glances at the article's history would provide you with the answer

• (remove inappropriate, unreferenced, and thoroughly useless trivia. If you wish to include it, 'Killkoa', discuss it on the Talk page.) 13:58, 5 September 2008 CalendarWatcher (Talk | contribs) (19,312 bytes)
• (remove inappropriate, unreferenced, and thoroughly useless trivia. If you wish to include it, 'Killkoa', discuss it on the Talk page.) 03:58, 4 September 2008 CalendarWatcher (Talk | contribs) (19,312 bytes)
• (Undid revision 228354673 by 96.248.130.135 (talk) - enough with the trivial reference to an unknown hack writer) 13:38, 28 July 2008 CalendarWatcher (Talk | contribs) (19,240 bytes)
• (Remove trivia: 1) unrelated to topic; 2) wildly out of tone with the rest; 3) neither book nor author even have articles, meaning that this is even less important, not to mention unverifiable.) 13:47, 22 June 2008 CalendarWatcher (Talk | contribs) (19,634 bytes)

And most especially, this:

• (Undid revision 237169669 by CalendarWatcher (talk)i like his version better. i never actually read the book 15:21, 9 September 2008 98.222.196.27 (Talk) (19,642 bytes)

In addition, a quick glance at the contributions of what is clearly a single troll--one whose existence you're already aware of, given that you've already warned him:

• Killkola (talk · contribs)
• 98.222.218.113 (talk · contribs)
• 98.222.196.27 (talk · contribs) - and this block log
• 96.248.130.135 (talk · contribs)

and quite probably

• I ate the cookie  (talk · contribs)

Included are the following highlights:

• (←Replaced content with 'retired from wikipedia... Calendar Watcher is gay for even coing here to look') 18:48, 18 October 2008 (hist) (diff) User:Killkola
• [2] 9:30, 22 June 2008 (hist) (diff) m User:CalendarWatcher/Talk Archive 1
• (CALENDARWATCHER IS A FUCKING WIKI-TARD!) 22:07, 19 October 2008 98.222.213.137 (Talk) (19,637 bytes)
• (no no no... calendar watcher u cant touch my clitoris... im 13 thats wrong) 03:58, 17 October 2008 98.222.185.84 (Talk) (19,637 bytes)
• (adding the sameinformation again because a wiki-durkha durkha will not stop harassing me.) 22:56, 12 October 2008 98.222.213.137 (Talk) (19,637 bytes)
• (Undid revision 236449242 by CalendarWatcher (talk) reverting vandalism by a wiki douche bag) 14:04, 5 September 2008 98.222.196.27 (Talk) (19,653 bytes)

Is any further information necessary? --CalendarWatcher (talk) 06:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Spelling

No problem. :-) — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 02:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Auction spam

Thanks for this. I thought my revert got it. I should have checked the history. --GraemeL ^(talk) 18:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

That one had slipped by us all for a while. O well. (Stupid place to put it, too...) CRETOG8(t/c) 19:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Balance and mainstream view of economics

As recent discussions have shown, there are articles all over the economics field that have problems like this. Let's work on Energy economics and Economic freedom to start with. On the latter, I've posted a POV flag. My edit noting the controversial nature of the term and including a little bit from FDR has been twice reverted without discussion. Take a look and see what you think.JQ (talk) 21:45, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Discussion doesn't seem to be getting us far at Economic freedom. Rather then keep reverting VisionThing's reverts, I've asked a few others to take a look. BTW, I posted some advice to him about 3RR on his talk page and he reverted that. He seems to think that 2 reverts per 24 hours is fine. But rather than play that game ourselves, i think it's better to seek a broader consensus. JQ (talk) 12:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm going through the motions of discussion largely for the benefit of others who come along later. My experience with an earlier attempt at the article doesn't leave me much hope that VT and I will come to an understanding. Getting more input for consensus is good, but I wouldn't be too timid about reverting--if one editor can edit-war two editors into submission because we're too polite, there's a problem. CRETOG8(t/c) 12:42, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

“Odd insertion”

I'm not sure why someone feels the need to insert that, but he or she has done it more than once. —SlamDiego 03:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Those throw me for a loop--not clearly vandalism, not POV, not even necessarily badly written, just non sequitur. CRETOG8(t/c) 04:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Comparative advantage

i await your reply here!

[IM SORRY, BUT I JUST FEEL THAT THIS IS REALLY POORLY WRITTEN LEAVING READERS WITH MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. THE EXAMPLE OF SOUTHLAND AND NORTHLAND DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHY SOUTHLAND DOESN'T DO AS NORTHLAND AND SPECIALIZE. IF IT DID THEN IT WOULD HAVE OUTPUTS OF 400 FOOD AND 0 CLOTHES. FURTHER, THE FLAWS IN THEORY DO NOT REFLECT THE EXAMPLES. PLEASE ELLABORATE!] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.11.204.51 (talk) 15:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Excellent! You've learned how to turn off caps lock and leave a message on a talk page where it belongs. That means you can now post any thoughts you have at Talk:Comparative advantage. Please do so without caps-lock on. CRETOG8(t/c) 15:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

im asking you, since you think you know about it by editing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.11.204.57 (talk) 02:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Agreed

I'm happy to have the whole irrelevant discussion removed. Including the heading. I agree it's irrelevant. - Ron Paul...Ron Paul... (talk) 06:11, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

November 2008

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Template talk:Economics sidebar

Hello, Cretog8. Concerning "Proposed edit stemming from "Methodologies" section" at Template talk:Economics sidebar, since your comment there on 18:33, 24 October 2008, I have made 2 additional comments, including an amended proposal on 15:55, 7 November. One other advantage of the amended proposal that I failed to mention there is that: Behavioral · Cultural · Evolutionary in (A) is also continuous with Methodology · Heterodox methods (besides Micro) at the end of the first section. Would you have any additional comments you'd care to add, either here or there? Thanks. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 20:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)