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Vandalism on the Hunnic language article

Dear Future Perfect Adminstitrator!

I want report to you a vandalism, in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunnic_language

A guy named, Sborsody always delete a board. In that board, there are the similar words of the Hun language to the Turkish and to Hungarian with English translation. It's there long time ago. But he always delete it. I put again. I also put a new source there. But he is following the vandalism again, and again. I ask your help.

Thank you. Sin sincerely: MagyarTürk (talk)

Pictures of Istvan Kovats

Greetings! I uploaded to xs.to (image sharing site) photos of Istvan Kovats, with my signature, with my identity card. You can see, that's photos are mine.

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs132&d=08434&f=pa210107939.jpg MagyarTürk (talk)

John Hunyadi, my answer

Greetings. You missed the sources, references in my editing. All right, now I put two important references, to John Hunyadi article. Is it better? I hope: yes.

MagyarTürk (talk)

User:Amazonfire

Can you look at the Comfort women and editors who have been disruptively blanking properly cited info and altering information without consensus nor discussion such as Sennen goroshi (talk · contribs), and Amazonfire (talk · contribs) did? The latter returns after his 8 months break and his block by you[1] Amazonfire was suspected as somebody's sock per his meatpuppeting to block evading users like Azukimonaka or others.[2] I think he is a sleeper sock in light of his behaviors, and timing. Please take a look at his behaviors. Thanks.--Caspian blue 14:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

The map Image:Greece linguistic minorities.svg

It was removed several times of the article Minorities in Greece from unknown IP sock. Jingby (talk)

Thanks for watching. Apparently a sock of User:Walnutjk. Has been making a nuisance of himself lately. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:22, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I will never get it right...

Is this [[3]] in the public domain? It has been inserted in the Hellenization page along with text that was actually copied verbatim from the sources. I like the photo a lot, but I am a bit confused. Can it be used under the terms described? If yes can I also use pictures of original texts whose copyright (I mean the text's) has expired?--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 11:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Do you have better pictures? I'd really like to read the some of the Aromanian. 12:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, scanned pages from out-of-copyright books are generally fair game. Just like the many historic maps from old books we use. In what circumstances a scanned image of a text (rather than a simple quotation) makes sense as encyclopedic information is a different issue, but legally it should be no problem. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I 'll see then if I can find any edition of old musical scores. I plan to insert them in the motet articles!--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 12:58, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

For Dufay there probably won't be much. The oldest reliable full edition (CMM Vol. 1, by Besseler) is from the 60s, I have no idea what older ones exist and how good they are. Might be better to re-set any example excerpts we need, as I did the other day with the Josquin bits. Sorry I still didn't find time to spend an hour or two at the music library. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Ι was under the impression that the first CMM edition was older and could be therefore used... I still owe you the Leontaritis samples and I am looking forward to working with you on the french-cypriot repertoire. I' ll check if Gallica has any relevant material--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 13:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Leontaritis sent. Enjoy--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 15:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Nice stuff! Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Question

FPaS - I need your assistance/opinion on an issue that has come up. There is an anonymous user (IP from Ireland) who is making edits to List of lakes, List of castles, and Table of administrative country subdivisions by country whereby the user is claiming that the name is "Ireland" and not "Republic of Ireland". The wikilink clearly goes to the article for Republic of Ireland and I am attempting to ensure that it stays this way, however, the user continues to revert my reversions and insist on the name being "Ireland" and not "Republic of Ireland". Can you assist in this issue and clear it up by either letting me know that this user's edits are correct (and I will no longer revert) or correct this user in stopping the actions that he/she is doing? Thank you. Rarelibra (talk) 13:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I must say I have no strong opinion on this case, nor do I know what the relevant consensus among editors active in the field is. I can just about imagine some of the ideological pitfalls in making the "wrong" naming decisions here. Personally, I can't find much wrong with using the short form, in a context that is clearly a list of countries, not of some other geographical units. The Republic is usually referred to in normal spoken English as just "Ireland" after all, isn't it? Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:04, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I modified it - hopefully the user will be happy with that. Rarelibra (talk) 19:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much...

...for your trenchant comments in Talk:Rescue of Jews by Polish communities during the Holocaust. I always believed that people can disagree without being disagreeable, and I am glad that you are bringing thoughtful ideas and observations to this conversation. I am enjoying your input immensely, and I wanted to express my gratitude that you are taking the time to address this issue. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 16:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

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A plesant interlude

Excuse me, FPaS, but noticing your knowledge of Greek, can you understand what is so funny about this[4]? Kapnisma ? 18:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Tip: Greek language question

LOL. Nice one. I had only heard of that other one "Περι εξωπετάξεως όπλου γκρά" where the culprit turns out to be a "καραπουτανάρα που δε συμμαζεύεται" (that one seems to circulate in various variations). But the "eorakamen" is better, especially because of the anakolouthon in the second sentence. :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

The presence of this ancient verb,εωρακαμεν, shows an effort to prettify, what really crosses the limits of drollery is this incredible σελαγιζουσης ,from the slang verb σαλαγω (=drive the sheep into the fold) transformed into archail past participle... You were a lucky nation, not having such a problem with your language. 19:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to barge in like that but the verb comes actually from σελαγίζειν which means to shine like a flame, to flicker cf. σέλας. What is meant is that the the moon was shining--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 19:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You justly remarked that, but I clearly doupt that Ioannis knew that when he wrote it and I believe he ment to use σαλαγω 19:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

LOL, you are most certainly right in thinking so... --Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 19:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Pomaks vs Bulgarian Muslims

It is not proven that the Pomaks are Bulgarian Muslims so the article should not be neither merged with Bulgarian Muslims, nor redirected to it. Think only about the Armenian Paulicians settled in Bulgaria and converted to Islam. Are they Bulgarian too? Since when troublesome articles get deleted or redirected without consensus? If you can't help solving the problem, then do not delete! This is stupid. --Chech Explorer (talk) 18:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you've misunderstood his intentions - see the talkpage of the Pomaks article. It should be deleted cause it's a copyvio. I for one support the merged article to bear the name Pomaks.

Some off-topic - I'll leave it in the same section, though. Future, isn't User:Mactruth (former User:Maktruth on the same 1RR per 48 hours as me? Cause if I'm not mistaken, he has broken it at least once - see this. Further he broke it without logging in on 23rd Oct - see this. He claims this was not him editing the article, although yesterday he edited a talkpage from the same IP on Talk:Philip II of Macedon where he immediately changed the IP with his signature [5]. Now he claims that this is another person, but even if is isn't this a meatpuppet since it edits articles in the same region as him? And with a pretty similar pattern? --ol ^T 21:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Do athletics fall into your interests?

Otherwise can you recommend me an administrator who is familiar with sports (basketball in particular)? --Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 16:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

No, not really, sports clubs are not really one of the things I deal with. You seem to have a dispute about notability of players? Better to ask for a third opinion at one of the relevant wikiprojects perhaps. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Bălţi Steppe

Oh, I am really sorry! I never thought about distroying edit history. When I tried to rename it, it prompted me that the page already exists, and that care should be taken not to loose the talk page. But I did not realize about loosing edit history. That means that it was imperative to undo what I did, and I am glad you noticed it. I am sorry I wasn't very thoughtful. (It is not the first time I do simmilar mistakes. But I never do the same exact mistake twice. :))

Sure, I will start a proposal to move the article from Bălţi Steppe to Bălţi steppe. I would like to add also that I accepted some months ago that this, and not Bălţi plane is the correct name (regardless of capitalization of "s"), and I am holding to that oppinion. I will not make any attemptes to change now that, I see, Moldopodo seems to be banned. I changed my mind because I was persuaded by the arguments, and the arguments stand regardless of whether a user is present or no longer. Thank you very much for your kind intervention. Dc76\^talk 00:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Check the history of this talk page to see what this "award" is about. I think it might be that nutcase. 04:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you have a word with ΚΕΚΡΩΨ about his recent disruptive editing

He has been adding the Greek Language among the languages spoken in Macedonia in a total of 7 times up till now. [6] We have some pretty strong evidence that the language is not spoken in Macedonia, at least not in a significant number: European Council [7][8][9], United Nations [10], Britannica encyclopedia [11] , BBC Educational [12], Eupedia [13]. This has been backed up by many editors also. The only lame arguments this user uses to support this fantomatic language minority is this web page [14][15] and even here the Greek it is not clearly stated among the languages of Macedonia. "The number of languages listed for Macedonia is 9." Non of them is Greek. Can you have a word with him about his recent disruptive editing and vandalism on the Republic of Macedonia page. Thank you Alex Makedon (talk) 19:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

dear fellow Admin plz do something about the nationalist troll ΚΕΚΡΩΨ and his attempts to edit Republic of Macedonia page at will, instead of editing the page just as he prefers to.[16]Alex Makedon (talk) 13:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Fellow admin? When did that happen? So not only can you unban yourself, but elect yourself to an adminship now too? That's hot. By the way, in case you hadn't realized, FP's edit effectively contradicted yours, so I don't know why you're bothering to try to invoke his wrath against me. ·· 16:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Deleting an article

Hi , I think the White Serbia article needs to be deleted. It is a stub, poor quality, and the White Serbs article more than adequately covers the issue. The article can be done without Hxseek (talk) 08:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Question about sources

Dear FP. Is there any guideline prohibiting or discouraging the use of references from internet resources when the latter require (payed) login? I have a disagreement with a fellow editor in Talk:Armenia but I can't find any specific guideline elaborating on the issue--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 08:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply.--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 09:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

WP:DUCK

Hello, Fut.Perf. Could you take a look at a newbie Occidentalist (talk · contribs) and have a WP:DUCK test? Since Ex-oneatf (talk · contribs) was blocked by you for his plagiarism and disruptive editing to Comfort women and others in July, about 4 months are past (that means RFCU report would not be effective) and the newbie inserted the same plagiarized materials to Prostitution in South Korea using same "Katherine Moon's citations". Also, Priorend (talk · contribs) and Logitech95 (talk · contribs) who took over the edit used the same source. The newbie was temperarily blocked for that after WP:AIV report, but I believe Occidentalist is either Ex-oneatf or Priorend per their same writing/method/violation/sources. I would appreciate if you spare a time for that. Regards.--Caspian blue 05:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Update: Tanthalas39 blocked and unblocked the newbie and takes it to WP:ANI. Thanks.--Caspian blue 05:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

User:VivaNorthCyprus

Can you do something about this user? He/she continues to make POV edits on Cyprus related articles like Morphou, Lefkoniko, and so on. I've taken it to WP:AVI, and they did nothing. The user has been warned. Any help would be appreciated. _{El Greco}^(talk) 17:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like we may have a new sock on our hands, but "POW removed"? Hilarious. ·· 15:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Future Perfect at Sunrise

Hello, the RfC on you has been closed. You are invited to read the conclusion at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise#Conclusion. To answer your question that was on the RfC talk page, RfC/U's are left up pretty much indefinitely until someone gets around to closing them. Since I'm pretty much the only admin who touches them, they can be up for months until they're dealt with. Wizardman 20:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I just now saw your note. I have no outside view to give, I only closed it as a completely uninvolved user. Pretty much it's either I close it or it disappears into oblivion, your actions neither right nor wrong. I can't answer which is better. Wizardman 20:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Fut. Perf, you have an unambiguously clear sense of involvement in this RFC - it was not appropriate for you to refactor an uninvolved editor's comments. If you were not satisfied with the outcome of your discussions with Wizardman, you should've come directly to the RFC talk page where myself or another editor would've made the necessary adjustment, depending on who noticed it first. So don't get me wrong; I can appreciate your concerns in part that may have some merit. But without further input, what you did was not appropriate. There are specific reasons why the involved subject of an RFC should not make such edits, particularly to avoid escalating disputes. Please bear this criticism in mind for the future. Ncmvocalist (talk) 11:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Your advice is duly noted and archived in the place reserved for opinions of comparable value. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo

Could you please take a look at the little trollfest on Talk:Kosovo? Both sides seem to have forgotten that the article is under probation. Colchicum (talk) 21:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Sorry for your time, but I really, really do not understand why should this be without an image? Any real point? Vlatko (talk) 00:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

what happens next?

care to give me a little advice?

I am a little apprehensive to dive straight back into the article resulted in my 48 hour block - I have suspicions that it might result in another edit-war.

I have made a proposal on the talk page, which only one person has commented on and there comment were agreeing with my proposals.

I did however think it would be fair/sensible to try and get Caspian Blue involved in the process, I left him a talk page message with a link to the discussion, but he does not seem to want to get involved.

At what point do I edit the article again? I am trying to use tact/diplomacy rather than cause more problems for myself.

Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Zwei things

• Since you guys don't rewrite articles, how about a history merge? I know it's not caturday but it r been a wyle :).
• Is there anything you can do about this? 06:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

You mean Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece and Political refugees of the Greek Civil War? I don't think that would be very useful, there's too much interlacing edit activity; a merged history would be utterly unreadable. And since my recommendation is to rewrite the merged article from scratch anyway, there isn't much of a formal problem either. If you want to be very very correct about attribution, you could say "merging material from ..." in the edit summary whenever you copy literal stuff over.

As for the monkeying, I'd simply keep it around as a document. Revealing the varying degrees of cleverness among their team – they're doin it rather well, akshully. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

OK. By the way, why did you add an "a" here? Apparently now the book is called "marijuana" (see WP:PNT). 11:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I found that version on Google, in a search entry of a page that seemed to have been one of the very rare instances where her name together with that of some other book titles of hers were mentioned on some Macedonian news site [17]. Unfortunately, the page itself was no longer accessible at the time, only its Google shadow. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

FYI

An anonymous editor has begun a deletion review for one of your image deletions but cannot inform you as your talk page is semi-protected. See: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 November 10.

CIreland (talk) 14:18, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review

IP 86.166.86.153 is calling for a deletion review on Image:Barack-obama-mother.jpg, which you closed; the IP did not inform you because your talk page is semiprotected. Nyttend (talk) 14:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Aradic

Hi Fut. can you have a look at this and tell me if having two accounts like that is allowed?--Avg (talk) 17:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

What's the problem with the accounts? As far as I see he switched cleanly from one to the other, with no attempt at deception. It all looks more like some confusion over account names that were originally meant to be specific to each language wiki. Of course, one might recommend he should link the accounts through a userpage redirect. The discussion comments are unhelpful, but don't cross the line into the overtly disruptive, as far as I'm concerned. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)