User talk:Kleinzach

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Stub sorting proposal

Hi, it doesn't look like my proposal is going anywhere, I think partly because my intent was not understood and also because some people seem to be very protective over the whole stub thing. I'll just let it drop for now as it cannot be implemented with the current system anyway. I mostly wanted to test the water and see what kind of objections that would get. I'm a little worried we seem to have people who think it's a good idea to perform the same tasks multiple times. Not just categorization but rating articles too. It's even more worrying that people flat out fail to recognize the same tasks are being performed multiple times.

I'll make sure to revive this if we ever get better category queries, until then, I think the only way forward is to campaign for that to happen or get the work done, though given the main issue would be server load, an outsider is limited in what they can do.

There is also a separate and more fundamental problem with categories: they are hierachical in nature, a relationship that cannot be handled well in database queries. For instance someone categorized in "american people" (but not in "people") cannot be readily queried as "people" at the database level even though "american people" is a subcategory of "people". There are ways around that, but again server load would be an issue. Equendil Talk 02:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Category:Musical eras

I replied to your question back on my talk page. ---- CharlesGillingham (talk) 08:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

When I came across it, it was no longer populated. It had been blanked too. The content before the blanking was:

{{History of European art music}} {{catdiffuse}} :[[Era]]s of [[European classical music]]. [[Category:Music history]] [[Category:Historical eras]] [[Category:Classical music]] [[eo:Kategorio:Muzikaj epokoj]]

User:CharlesGillingham probably blanked the page and resorted the entries based on the catdiffuse template you inserted in June. -- Mgm|^(talk) 08:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• You asked how to go about moving things back. Have Charles contact me to confirm he agrees (just to make sure I don't have to undo the change again later) and start populating the category. When you're done, ask me to undelete the history for Musical eras and delete the then empty history of ... category. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and restored the category to its original name. ---- CharlesGillingham (talk) 12:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

FSC gobbleygook

I posted a relevant message on PMA's talk page. 03:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. What do you think of Shoemaker's Holiday's voting proposal here? --Kleinzach 23:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Kleinzach,

Thanks for welcoming me to wikipedia. I am a complete neophyte when it comes to this realm, so I anticipate needing much support as I traverse this terrain. I look forward to learning quite a bit and doing my best to contribute as well!(J. Schaeffer (talk) 23:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC))

Not at all. Good luck and let me know if I can help. --Kleinzach 01:01, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Ziehrer response

Hmm, I'm not too sure about merging the articles: if you look at Johann Strauss II's composition list, for example, you can see that his works all have their own articles -- that goes for a lot of other composers as well. I think that unless it's really a problem or something to have individual articles, it would be best to leave them as they are. Best regards, ♪TempoDiValse♪ 01:28, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess you're right about the stubs being a waste of time for the reader -- I did not think of that. The only references I could find for the compositions were record jackets of CDs, which doesn't amount to much, so I can't expand the articles. Yes, it would be better to merge the articles into one. Could you do that? I'm not exactly sure how to do it. Best regards! ♪TempoDiValse♪ 02:44, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have made a wikitable for the article and will continue to add more works to the list. As for the move, feel free to go ahead and move it back. I wasn't completely sure whether to include Ziehrer's first name or not, and wasn't completely sure what WP protocol was on it. Best, ♪TempoDiValse♪ 01:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't see that. Thanks, I changed it now. ♪TempoDiValse♪ 03:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)