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What the heck happened when I have become the voice of reason? Might you care to step in and request a peace? I ask because you are knowledgable inre film and your "outside view' might be accepted at tv. ^{MICHAEL Q.}

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I've deleted it since the target isn't a dab page. Rich Farmbrough, 16:29 25 October 2008 (UTC).

WikiProject Films October 2008 Newsletter

The October 2008 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have suggestions or comments related to the newsletter, please leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you and happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk) 09:09, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for On the Green Carpet

On 5 November 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article On the Green Carpet, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 03:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Dream Cinema

It is still screening and [1][2] these brief status quo say chairs for viewers in the theatre were replaced for better service, but according to a news published in August 2008, it is still planed to be closed in this year.[3] --Caspian blue 20:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You did the good job. The referred source is correctly translated.--Caspian blue 16:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Template:Korean name

Yes, I'm aware that there are a lot of them. I plan on taking care of it all. I notified the creator (and only significant contributor) of the category and asked him if I was missing anything. He replied that he's fine with renaming so there is no need for CFD. Now that I have his response, I'll rename the category, the re-categorize the templates, and delete the redirects (per CSD G6). It may take me a bit to do, but it's pretty straight forward to clean-up. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Dream Cinema

On 12 November 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dream Cinema, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cirt (talk) 09:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter

The Miss Julie Memorial LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XVII: November 12, 2008 Project News Wake up! I say this to myself as much as I say it to all of us. I work a lot by myself or with individual editors who spend time at Featured Article Candidates. It seems on November 5 a fog was lifted off my brain that helped me realize that we have massive potential in this project to get things done. Take this allegory, for instance: On Wednesday, Nov. 5, 1980, my 10th-grade American history teacher started class by unfurling The New York Times. She pointed to its triple banner headline: “Reagan Easily Beats Carter; Republicans Gain in Congress; D’Amato and Dodd are Victors.” “Save this paper,” she told us. “This is the start of a whole new era.” Judith Warner from The New York Times It definitely seems a start to a whole new era now. If planets align correctly to remind us that whatever advances we may have made in electing what appears to be an extraordinary president in the US, the moons that revolve around those planets also serve to illustrate it's not that simple. Florida, Arizona, and California all appear to have banned same sex marriage. As someone who was married in California and lives in Florida, this is particularly poignant. We seem to be at the juncture of two converging paths. If we maximize our efforts and take the right ones, we might just be able to affect some change for ourselves. The power of Wikipedia and California Proposition 8 (2008) Though what we do is an interesting hobby for some, we have the power to make a difference. California's ballot initiative to ban gay marriage was a fierce fight. It's being challenged right now, but just look at how Wikipedia played a role in that: in October 2008, 360,238 people read its article. On November 5, an astounding 467,000 people read it. I commend the editors who work on that article—both those who support and oppose it. A look at the talk page shows a concerted effort to keep it civil and accurate. What can we do? How do you fight ignorance? With information. That's what Wikipedia is for. This project is overwhelming with 8,576 articles in its scope. We can continue to work piecemeal as we have in the past, or we can focus on goals. These are examples of areas we can concentrate on. Current political events LGBT Media and Literature LGBT History Sex and sexuality Articles about political issues in the US and around the world that have been especially relevant within the past 5 years Depictions of LGBT people and issues on television, film, newspapers, magazines Topics about gay rights activism and the opposition to it Articles relating to sex and sexuality Florida Amendment 2 (2008), California Proposition 8 (2008), E.O. Green School shooting, etc. The Advocate, Curve (magazine), Washington Blade, Milk (film), Brokeback Mountain, etc. Moral Majority, ACT UP, Queer Nation, Mattachine Society, Jesse Helms, Jerry Falwell, Mathew Shepard, etc. Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, sexual and gender expression, etc. There are more than 8,000 articles to work on. Can we build a list of priorities? Can we build enough enthusiasm to work on these? What if we had editors who oversaw progress in these areas and reported to the talk page or in the newsletter? Surely someone here wants to report on the progress of sex articles. Tony Perkins (irony) from the conservative Family Research Council was heartened by the recent passages of gay marriage bans. The Republican Party is without direction. What's going to take the place of a moderate voice will not be pleasant to our ears. Watching and improving articles of subjects that have opposed gay rights in the past will be of vital importance very soon, I predict. But WP:LGBT is not a very active project All we can do is start somewhere. The first step is answering this newsletter on the project talk page. Join in the discussion. More things we can do Give out more barnstars, and let each other know that what they're doing is valued. Create a guide to stave off burnout, because editors in this project get burned out faster than others. There are many hills to climb. Bring back the monthly collaboration project. Participate in LGBT Peer reviews. Get familiar with the characteristics of Good Articles and get our top priority articles to WP:GA. Keep our project page and open tasks template updated. Use the Newsletter, Moni3! You can suggest what to send out in the newsletter, too! Offer research materials, copy editing, ideas, and support to your fellow editors. Keep the project talk page informed of problems and discussions we should know about. Proposal: Put Importance Levels on articles If this was decided long before I was a member, maybe it's time to revisit it. Other WikiProjects, such as WP:Novels determine that some subjects have an importance category: Top, High, Mid, Low, or None (undetermined). If we decide that our most core articles, it might help to organize which articles to address first. Top importance, for example, would be Gay, Homosexual, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Sappho, Oscar Wilde, Stonewall riots, for example. High importance would be Homosexuality and psychology, Harvey Milk, Mattachine Society, Harry Hay, or Daughters of Bilitis, and so on. This can be a matter of discussion, or perhaps we could have someone in charge of determining these levels for all the articles we have tagged. So, like Slim Whitman, "I'm Calling You" The editors I have admired in the past, who have done great things alone, and who I think can help us all do extraordinary things now: SatyrTN, Dev920, Aleta, Becksguy, Otto4711, BelovedFreak, Benjiboi, Bookkeeper of the Occult, Queerudite, FisherQueen (I will marry you), PaulB, APK, ZigZig20s, AllStarEcho (I know you're out there), Raystorm, and my very own copy editor, Dank55. These are the editors I've seen working (and I know I'm forgetting a few). There's more of you out there I haven't seen. Some of you are new. We need all of you. Please help. Miami, January 18, 1977 after the gay rights ordinance was passed: While Bryant and the others were creating the beginnings of the repeal effort, (gay activists) Basker, Campbell, Kunst, and the other (gay rights) ordinance supporters congratulated themselves on their success and then quickly disbanded... There was no organized recognition or celebration of the victory. As one activist remembered, "We just went home." They had little idea of the battle that was before them. - Fred Fejes in Gay Rights and Moral Panic, 2008 Don't go home yet, please. --Moni3 (talk) 00:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.

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Gibang vs Gyobang

The two are different. Gyobang was a government-managed institution.--Caspian blue 02:52, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

WP:FILMS Assessment

Sorry for taking so long getting back to you, I've been uploading numerous Wikimedia Commons images that I was fortunate to get permission for. Looking over your message, I can see your points you raised. I don't know exactly where in the archives the discussion is but it probably around late 2006 to early 2007. Still comparing the template with the grading scheme, I think it accurately represents what a Start article should have. "The article has a meaningful amount of good content, but it is still weak in many areas, and may lack some key elements." A meaningful amount of good content, seems to me acceptable to include a plot, cast, and two sections covering any aspect of the film. When I assess an article I don't count the sections and then just reassess the article, I do look over the content. I have assessed articles that were below these requirements but had a stronger point elsewhere in the article to warrant Start class. Each article can be different depending on the amount of available information/sources, but meeting a basic threshold of a few fundamental sections for a film article shouldn't be too difficult. Also from the grading scheme: "Has at least one serious element of gathered materials, including any one of the following: "A subheading that fully treats an element of the topic or multiple subheadings that indicate material that could be added to complete the article." Again multiple subheadings falls under this template again. It doesn't require that they be complete/sourced/long, but just introduce the topics. Rather than fighting the notion of having to add an additional section, it would be simpler and more constructive of everyone's time to just add the section, and the article would benefit. I'm not here to try and hurt anyone's feelings when I downgrade an article, and editors shouldn't worry too much about the classes outside of the higher ones anyway. Their focus should be on the article itself. My intentions are to make sure that the quality of our articles improve, and attempt to ensure that the articles at the different class levels are uniform. That's fine if you want to open the C-class discussion, but I think inclusion of the class is not necessary for the project. It's just one more class that we have to continue to maintain, will need to reassess all of our articles, and I think will require a large amount of time for something that is very close between Start and B-class. Instead of focusing on adding one more class, our members could be diverting our efforts elsewhere, including improving the articles. The purpose of the upcoming drive is not to focus on downgrading articles, but will be to tag all of the articles with needed infoboxes/images/cast/production etc. (so we know what work still needs to be done and update articles that have already addressed these tags), and if a reassessment is necessary for an article, it will be changed. I still recognize that your interpretation of the assessment differs from mine, and if you think that our project is suffering because of it, please feel free to mention it on the project's talk page so that we can get a consensus again on what people believe is acceptable. I had assumed the consensus at the time was enough, and haven't heard any complaints yet, but as times and standards change, maybe people feel the same way as you do. Thanks again for contacting me, and hopefully our assessment process continues to improve. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

The Film Barnstar

		The WikiProject Films Award
		I, Caspian blue, hereby award PC78 the WikiProject Films Award for his/her valued contibutions to WikiProject Films. of Korean films as well as your outstanding contributions to creating and maintaining general Korean related articles. Keep up the great work! Awarded 18:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, actually, you deserve to receive "dual Barnstars" if we had Korean Project Barnstar". I think I need to make the award soon..--Caspian blue 18:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

LGBTProject

Thank you - I'd noticed the DEFAULTSORT error, but didn't have the time or inclination to figure out what was causing the problem. I've left a question on Template talk:LGBTProject about the code you suggested - could you stop by and reply? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)