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General comments and ideasCapitalization scanning wanted!I've noted some examples where 'Some Article' and 'Some article' both exist and are different. Is there a way to automatically scan for things like this? Also, for instance, 'Phantom islands' is different from 'Category:Phantom islands'. Probably requires merging?
Naming criteria (kinda unclear)For merged articles, I prefer the most international and general name possible. I.e. Islands of the North Atlantic better British Isles. Perhaps a redirection from Islands of the North Atlantic to British Isles Mac 12:02 Mar 9, 2003 (UTC) Bot ideaRemoval of accomplished mergers could be automated with the following pseudocode: For (each element of a list)
If this has consensus I'll copy it over to WP:Bot requests Alba 16:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)#
Comment on the preceding, and this process in generalThere needs to be a standard format for listing these requests. That would facilitate using a bot as above. There also should be links from this page to the discussions of the mergers, as you can see many people try to discuss on this page. Basically I think (controversial) mergers are the same kind of thing as (controversial) moves, and should be treated similarly. The way, the truth, and the light 23:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC) history mergeWP:SPLICE should be included in the instructions. 70.55.84.42 (talk) 03:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Specific CasesNon-violenceFor pacifism and Non-violent resistance and Non-violence, I prefer Non-violence because it´s the most general. From there links to pacifism and Non-violent resistance, if the articles have enough content, specially, indicating the differences between they both. More than duplicated (in this case triplicated) articles, we can talk about non-jerarquiced articles or structured article sequence Mac 12:06 Mar 9, 2003 (UTC) Mac 12:06 Mar 9, 2003 (UTC) Gaia TheoryTaku added:
Gaia Theory says in the first line "Gaia Theory of Lynn Margulis and others is one among other Gaia theories" ("Gaia theories" links to Gaia theory). Likewise, the capitalised article is linked to in the lower case article. Possibly there is a better way to distinguish between these two articles, but they clearly are not talking about the same thing. --Camembert Sorry my comment was not good enough. I meant I don't think many people distinguish them well. We really shouldn't differenciate articles by upper or lower cases. Yes, they are not identical theories but they are apparently closely related. I think it is a better idea to merge them to one article and discuss the difference between Gaia Theory and Gaia theory. -- Taku 02:44 Apr 27, 2003 (UTC)
I am sorry. I don't mean Gaia theory, Gaia Theory and Gaia hypothesis are some stuff. But I really don't think we need a separate article for each closely related topic. Maybe it is my preference but I think one article should discuss Gaia theory like Gaia hypothesis. See for example, call-by-something. Yes, there is not thing called "call by something but it seems appreciate that one article discusses call by name, call by reference and call by name. Remeber we need an article that makes sense not make an article for each topic. Articles that are not talking about the same thing but closely related should be placed in one place for the sake of contributers and readers. -- Taku 02:50 Apr 27, 2003 (UTC)
True. I think we can agree with the current comment. -- Taku 03:04 Apr 27, 2003 (UTC)
Non-duplicates that have been labelled duplicatesBlood-Chemistry Crises
Southern Denmark (?)Discussion on merging South Jutland and Northern Schleswig deleted. Qualifications on "World"See: Talk:World, which maybe is the appropriate place to discuss New World, Old World, First World, Second World, Third World, Crime and Punishment (not the novel)
Wayne, New Jersey and Wayne Township, New Jersey
Pi discussion
After over a month: Three votes against, one for, one neutral. --Rossumcapek 19:05, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC) MacclesfieldI just merged Macclesfield (borough) into Macclesfield. Please could someone check my sanity? Did I do something sensible, if so I will continue in the same vein. Diz 07:31, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC) Digital audioDigital Audio Broadcast and digital audio broadcasting don't seem like the same thing. Digital Audio Broadcast refers to a specific protocol of digital audio broadcasting, which is a broader topic. However I believe it should be merged with EUREKA 147. JoaoRicardo 18:11, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC) Connecticut River, etc.Following discussion moved here from the main page, since it looks like no merging will take place. RussBlau 20:14, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Portuguese language and related pagesThis isn't entirely a request for pages to be merged, but also a request for material at Portuguese language that duplicates material on a related page to be deleted. I tried removing all but the first paragraph of Portuguese language#History on the grounds that it was entirely duplicated at History of the Portuguese language. PedroPVZ reverted, calling it "inadvertent vandalism" (isn't that a contradiction in terms?) and saying "this is an article, not a portal". I re-removed it, pointing out on the talk page that duplication of articles is undesirable and that the main page should just have a brief summary of the contents of the more specific page. He re-reverted, disagreeing with my reasoning. I don't want to start an edit war over this, so I haven't removed it a third time, but I'm hoping some other users can help build up a consensus that (1) Portuguese language is way too long (it's currently 64 kb!), and (2) Wikipedia policy is not to have the same material on two different pages, and that therefore (3) Portuguese language#History should be reduced to a single short paragraph, since everything else is at History of the Portuguese language. There are similar problems with Portuguese language#Dialects, which unnecessarily duplicates material at Portuguese dialects, and Portuguese language#Sounds, which seems to have been written separately from Portuguese phonology, but is certainly way too long considering the existence of the latter. I would like to see Portuguese language#Sounds merged with Portuguese phonology and a brief summary left in its place. Similarly Portuguese language#Grammar could be merged with Portuguese grammar: there's not much direct duplication, but the topic should be discussed all the more specific page, which is still rather short. Portuguese language#Vocabulary duplicates much material at Portuguese vocabulary and much content could be merged there. Some of Portuguese language#Writing system could probably be profitably merged with Portuguese alphabet too. I'd be bold and do it all alone, but I'm afraid of all my work being reverted if I act without consensus. --Angr/tɔk tə mi 20:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC) ProcedureWhen doneThe page says "After a pair has been merged leave it on the list with a remark DONE." Why is that? What is the argument against just removing pairs from the list after they have been done? Andre Engels 10:14 Sep 27, 2002 (UTC)
OrderingWouldn't it be nice to have a new duplicates section ? --User:Docu
Changing opening.In general, what's the etiquette for changing policy pages? More specifically, in the opening couple of paragraphs, I think we should distinguish another valid fix for duplicate pages: leaving the two pages as distinct, but rewriting the pages so they no longer duplicate information. -- Walt Pohl 16:33, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC) Policy EditI took a leap, since I couldn't find any info on the etiquette of changing policy headings/pages, and went ahead and did a rewrite. I hope this doesn't ruffle any feathers. Basically, I just felt that a new wording would be clearer for newbies -- and since there seems to be some evidence that the Wikipedia community likes having newbies test out their skills on these kinds of tasks, it's only logical that these types of pages be as user-friendly as possible. I also wanted to make clear the agreed-upon policy of having folks remove their "Fixed!" taglines. As previously stated, this is superfluous, so it should be clear in the introduction to Duplicates that we want people to remove the information once the task has been accomplished. Finally, I incorporated the suggestion of the user above that Duplicates can be edited so that both reflect appropriate content. --Wolf530 02:03, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC) Special pages tableWolf530 added a table for special pages, which I removed today. While I can understand his intention, I don't think it is such a good idea. If you frequence those pages, then you should use the bookmarks or just create some shortcut at your user page as many people do. Since people would prefer a different list of shortcut links, it is impossible to have a table everyone likes. -- Taku 08:59, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)
It, in my view, clutters the page. I understand that such sortcuts are useful and helpful to some people. But my point is that it is irrelevant. Only those who are interested in information about where are duplicate articles and how to clean up them. There is already enough page that navigates newbies. And again you can always have a list of shortcuts customized in the way you like. -- Taku 02:55, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I just don't think your argument holds any water. The Specialpagelist neither clutters the page nor makes it any longer. It also makes little difference whether or not a maintenance page is "pretty" or not -- its purpose is utilitarian, and not aesthetic. It is better to have the pagelist there, so that new folks can easily find maintenence areas, than to not have it there and have those areas not get attention. We should all be concerned with ensuring that these pages find people to work on them. I am returning the table to the page. --Wolf530 18:23, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)
I guess it's time for voting. Support Wolf530's table
Oppose
Don't Care
listing new candidatesAfter inserting the merge tags in each article, do we need to add them to the list on the project page, or are they automagically added? In other words, how is the list updated? --Cfailde 13:58, 2004 Aug 21 (UTC)
Do we need to mearge Duplicate articleson the page Duplicate articles there are links to Category:Articles to be merged and the template page what links here. my question is, is there any need to retain the duplicate article page, as it goes out of date quicker than the category page. -- The above was posted by User:Tooto? yes, by me at 17:31:46 (UTC) Keep. The Category page does not allow us to post comments regarding proposed merger. -- PFHLai 23:48, 2004 Sep 9 (UTC)
Merge tags being overused?I'm a bit concerned at the number of tags, including merge tags, that are in articles now. It's a long standing general principle on Wikipedia that comments about articles ("we need more information on xxx" or "this is badly worded") belong on the talk page rather than the article space, and I think the same principle should apply to tags. I have no problem with using tags where they are genuinely helpful to the reader - for example where we have two articles on the same person, which should clearly be merged. But in many cases, tags are being used where it's not obvious that the pages should be merged at all, and if so what information belongs where. In these cases I think discussion and comments about whether and how to merge articles belongs on the talk page. Also, duplicate information is not always and everywhere a bad thing - there are many cases in which it is appropriate to describe the same thing differently, for example, with a simple and an advanced presentation of the same topic, or articles aimed at different audiences. I've edited the article to make it clearer that including tags is a guideline, not a hard-and-fast rule, and that it is OK to remove a tag if you judge that it shouldn't be there. Comments welcome. Enchanter 11:20, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC).
MergingHow long does it take before a pair that gets mentioned on this article can actually be merged?? Feel free to include what it can depend on. 66.245.64.202 19:52, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
UnsortedRococo vs. Rococo furniture styleif anyone comes across it there are two articles with the name rococo in them. the one that says Rococo furniture style ought to be merged with Rococo. Merged Adbusters Media Foundation with AdbustersThis is my first attempt with working on Wikipedia. I merged Adbusters Media Foundation with Adbusters. Please let me know if I made an error. Thanks. --pgeoff 00:12, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC) Merged Chewing with MasticationMergest these to articles with each other, into one mastication article, figured the better name would be the correct biology name.--Djanvk 04:00, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC) PacioliThere was a merge request for Fra Luca Bartolomeo de Pacioli and Luca Pacioli. These articles were almost exactly the same except slight capitalization differences. I redirected Fra Luca to Luca, since AFAIK Luca Pacioli is the more commonly used name. I mergedSimon Amman with Simon Ammann, anyone can see if it's ok? cos its my first merge partialmergeAny template of this kind around? Useful imho, Phlebas 23:13, 11 May 2005 (UTC) Correct ArticleThe article claims you should make additions to the correct article. What is that supposed to mean? Superm401 | Talk 15:21, May 23, 2005 (UTC) This page has been double-pasted.Hi, It looks as though all the additions to this talk page have been made twice. I assume there has been a mistake with the <PASTE> operation that should be fixed (it isn't a play on the idea of "duplication", surely). Wragge 19:03, 2005 May 31 (UTC) CrabloggerI don't think that the merge article Crablogger on Wikipedia:Community_Portal should be there (or anywhere). Crablogger has too much detail to be merged into the Thunderbirds (TV series) overview, which is already quite long. The crablogger article could simply be criticized on the grounds of triviality, or on grounds of brevity. However;
Anyway, since there is no duplicate information on these two pages (Crablogger, and Thunderbirds (TV series)) I strongly suggest Crablogger be removed from the Wikipedia:Community_Portal page, especially because the "merge-to" page doesn't follow policy and carry a {{mergefrom|Other article}} tag. Wragge 19:03, 2005 May 31 (UTC) Bases as placesAny views on merging Warren AFB, Wyoming with F.E. Warren AFB and Laughlin AFB, Texas with Laughlin Air Force Base one is the census designation of the area the other the actual bas. There are probably others should they be merged or not? MeltBanana 4 July 2005 00:35 (UTC)
Depreciating listings on this pageThere are over 2,300 articles to be merged, the vast, vast majority of which are not listed here. Template:mergefrom and Template:mergeto and Template:merge point editors to a specific talk page for commenting on the proposal. I don't think there's any need to list articles to be merged on this page any more. It just creates additional work, because editors have to check to see which articles have already been merged. It also splits the discussion between the talk page and the listing here, and potentially creates some duplication in effort and coordination failures as a result. I suggest just using these tags and Category:Articles to be merged instead of putting listings on this page. -- Beland 20:11, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
The way it's used now, it's really a Merge requests page, which can live without being "complete". Why not just rename it accordingly? Jules.LT 22:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC) Merged Regents (Examinations) with New York State Department of EducationMade the most sense to me, seeing as Regents are taken specifically in NYS. --D-Day 23:16, 6 September 2005 (UTC) -Please note that due to the fact that the New York State Department of Education page is so poorly constructed, Regents (Examinations) now has its own page containing the data cut-and-pasted from the NYSDE page and arranged in a more readable and comprehensive manner. 71.246.77.104 19:58, 25 October 2005 (UTC) The barcid family - a merge?I don´t know if this the right place to propose a "merge", but here it goes: I propose a merge of all the scatterred articles of the Barcid family into the Barcid Family article with the exception of Hannibal who certainly deserves a single article. All the single articles are scatterred and simply too small. If the single enties expand considerably we could make single articles. List cleanupI've been going through the list & cleaning out stale entries, or doing merges myself. I've also been reclassifying merge-requests that have been approved, but need work, as well as requests that are in limbo or dispute. A few requests seem to also be in states of edit war: pulled those entries as well. Cwolfsheep 19:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC) List cleanupI'll be removing all entries which have been struck out. Hope thats ok by all the editors watching this page. xCentaur | 12:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I've weeded out all the completed ones from before October 2007 and removed much which show consensus against merges from that era. Now I'll be bold and remove any proposals with no discussion and/or action over the past 9 months and eliminate the redundant "no consensus" section. I won't remove the {{mergeto}} and {{mergefrom}} tags from any articles with "stale" proposals (time limitations). If a person has not followed up on a late 2006 or early 2007 posting, it was unlikely to be that big a deal in the first place. B.Wind (talk) 03:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC) WP:SPLICEsomething should be mentioned on history mergers at WP:SPLICE 70.51.9.124 (talk) 15:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC) templateA template like Template:RMlink should be created for a default merger request, to standardize entries. 70.51.9.124 (talk) 15:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC) |
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