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A related discussion
Hi. There's an ongoing discussion about the deletion of article "Towns in the Former RSK " [1]. The article is a list of Croatian towns that were occupied by greaterserbianists during Serbian aggression on Croatia in 1990's; direct occupation and rule from Serbia was hidden by self-proclaimed (and internationally unrecognised) para-state RSK.
Keeping this article would be a precedent for cases like "Towns in former Third Reich". Please, give your opinion. Kubura (talk) 07:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Survey 2008 - request from Piotrus
After years of lobbying, the survey is finally here. Please take a few minutes and participate in it. As a research of Wikipedia myself, I cannot stress the importance of this project. Thank you, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
Rescue of Jews by Polish communities during the Holocaust
This new article by Poeticbent has been tagged as a possible copyvio. Please help to rewrite the article and offer comments on talk in the ongoing discussion. Personally I don't think it is a copyvio, but input from others will be certainly appreciated - and the article does need some further expansion and rewriting. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
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- the article might also benefit from a change to the NPOV title: Treatment of .... DGG (talk) 20:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- why is the current title not NPOV? Loosmark (talk) 20:29, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, why? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
- Among other things (such as lack of balance) because the article does not describe "Rescue of Jews by Polish communities during the Holocaust" but instead gives a hodgepodge of individual examples culled from a single unreliable source. It lacks any reliable sources that verify what the title as it is now conveys. Boodlesthecat Meow? 21:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
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- i understand the article is in the process of being rewritten or improved. probably the authors will add aditional sources. but how do you propose to describe the rescue of Jews by Polish communities if not by giving examples? i see no better way than that. the title seems correct to me. Loosmark (talk) 22:11, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- The article is a collection of stories of aid to Jews (all lifted from the single compilation cited above), most if not all of which are by members of communities, and not whole communities. Hence the title is misleading and POV. There are instances where there were mass executions by Nazis and local collaborators of Polish villages charged with aiding Jews, which in no way definitively meant these were cases of "Rescue of Jews by Polish communities"--it could mean collective punishment for the acts of a handful of people, and generally it was Nazi terror tactics because there was partisan activity in the region. Boodlesthecat Meow? 22:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- ok i read the pdf document, the "unreliable source" as you call it, and to me it looks credible. but of course if more sources are found the article will benefit. i don't understand very well your point about the title but if you have a better one i suggest you propose it on the talk page of the article. Loosmark (talk) 13:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Reliability is discussed here; the source seems relatively reliable.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
- No it doesnt. Boodlesthecat Meow? 03:33, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- Reliability is discussed here; the source seems relatively reliable.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
- ok i read the pdf document, the "unreliable source" as you call it, and to me it looks credible. but of course if more sources are found the article will benefit. i don't understand very well your point about the title but if you have a better one i suggest you propose it on the talk page of the article. Loosmark (talk) 13:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- The article is a collection of stories of aid to Jews (all lifted from the single compilation cited above), most if not all of which are by members of communities, and not whole communities. Hence the title is misleading and POV. There are instances where there were mass executions by Nazis and local collaborators of Polish villages charged with aiding Jews, which in no way definitively meant these were cases of "Rescue of Jews by Polish communities"--it could mean collective punishment for the acts of a handful of people, and generally it was Nazi terror tactics because there was partisan activity in the region. Boodlesthecat Meow? 22:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- i understand the article is in the process of being rewritten or improved. probably the authors will add aditional sources. but how do you propose to describe the rescue of Jews by Polish communities if not by giving examples? i see no better way than that. the title seems correct to me. Loosmark (talk) 22:11, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Among other things (such as lack of balance) because the article does not describe "Rescue of Jews by Polish communities during the Holocaust" but instead gives a hodgepodge of individual examples culled from a single unreliable source. It lacks any reliable sources that verify what the title as it is now conveys. Boodlesthecat Meow? 21:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- the article might also benefit from a change to the NPOV title: Treatment of .... DGG (talk) 20:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Grzegorz Gajewski
i started an article about the chessplayer Grzegorz Gajewski who is the member of the Polish team at Dresden chess olympiad which is in progress at the moment. unfortunately somebody tagged the article for speedy deletion due to lack of notability!?!? Loosmark (talk) 20:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Solution: remove tag, expand. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
Category:Germany–Poland relations
The category seems to be dominated by WWII events. Should we create a subcat Category:Germany–Poland relations during WWII? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
