As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.
Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, () 20:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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Inactive Project Clean Up
WikiProject Video games is looking to clean up both inactive and limited-scope WikiProjects dealing with video games and move these into task forces of WikiProject Video games, as outlined at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Inactive project cleanup. This message is being posted to this project to first see if this project is currently active, and if there is consensus to move this project into a task force. We ask that if this project is still active, that you determine as a project if this project should remain separate from WikiProject Video games, and let us know your intentions. Please let us know within the month; those projects that do not respond within that time will be assumed to be inactive and will be cleaned up automatically. This is not a mandatory process; we will not attempt to anything to your project if there is no consensus or consensus against moving it. However, we do urge you to consider if your project needs to remain separate from WikiProject Video games. Please let us know if you have any questions on this.Hereford 16:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately yes :( Hereford 16:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes I would agree to making this a task force, it is not very active and the scope of the topic is not really large enough in my view for a fully independent project at this time. Camaron | Chris(talk) 17:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
PeterSymonds. You have not given a reason as to why you support the task force. This is a discussion, not a vote. — ( • ) 17:38, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I explained my reasons a while ago when StewieGriffin! was working with it. It simply had too few contributors to remain a full working taskforce. Discussion seems to have stopped since then, but however unfortunate it is that there are too few contributors, I believe the project can possibly survive if it's integrated with one more active. PeterSymonds(talk) 17:57, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Just because you explained your reason a while ago does not in any way mean you don't have to explain your reason here. When it comes to discussions in this form, you shall explain your reason, always, without exceptions. — ( • ) 12:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Support. Coverage of The Sims is not large enough for a WikiProject. However, if accepted, could we make a WikiProject Maxis?. — ( • ) 17:37, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Reluctant Support. I did think that this project could work, but it seems it would be better looked after and serve more of a purpose as a task force. (Out of curiosity, would you keep my logo?)-- 18:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Very Strong Support. I reckoned when it was created that it was too small a scope, but I got pushed out, and then havent been back since my "incident". Failing a task force, i would go for Wikipedia:WikiProject Maxis, which i was very keen for a while ago. 19:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, as I said, I think it would be better there and then it also gets more scope. I'd be happy to start it as long as my changes, redesigns etc are not deleted again without me having chance to respond (i know its not the place but could the admin not see I was on a Wikibreak?!?!) 10:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Forgive the unsolicited comment, but if the scope is expanded while the number of active members is low, wouldn't it amount to extra work load for an already stretched group of editors? (Guyinblack25talk 13:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC))
No offence or whatever taken, your comment is completely valid! And it's a very good one. Perhaps, create as a taskforce for Maxis? That should work best I think! Thanks, 14:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
A Maxis task force would certainly work. (Guyinblack25talk 14:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC))
Oppose
Somewhat Strongly Oppose: I will only agree if we can keep our graphics (such as ) and at least have a subcategorization. — Supuhstar*§ 03:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes, they would all be kept I believe. It will continue to exist but as a task force of a larger more active project where it will be used more. May I ask why you want the images to be kept though? (Purely out of curiosity... i'm just thinking something through...) Thanks, 10:04, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
This seems popular enough... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Supuhstar (talk • contribs) at 23:43, 20 October 2008
Support
Strong support. This way we can cover Sims, Sim City, and Spore!— Supuhstar*§ 23:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I love the idea. We will be able to cover more games. We'll be editing games that people haven't been getting around to editing too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irunongames (talk • contribs) 11:11, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Strong support. Although I do support the Task Force, I think WikiProject Maxis would be a better idea. That way, we can cover all games of Maxis rather than neglecting their coverage in a WikiProject. Not to mention, I'm the first one to bring up this WikiProject in this Task Force section. — ( • ) 12:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
You are all forgetting one thing: an expansion in scope will just make the project less active. There are not enough editors as it is, and a scope expansion will not help. A task force for Maxis is the best place to go. (And Mythdon: I bought up WP:Maxis months ago ;) ) 17:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
For all we know that could increace the people who want to help. What if we just give it 1 month and see how it works?Irunongames (talk) 19:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
after e/cIt would be easier to start the taskforce as Maxis and move it if the amount of users warrants it. That way its less page moves and renaming: if it fails to take off, its already where it needs to be, otherwise its just more work for the users and admins alike. 20:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
And you're forgetting one thing too. I did not say I was the first one to bring up WikiProject Maxis. All I said was that I was first one to bring it up in this Task Force section which this section is a subsection of. Understood?. — ( • ) 20:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, ok. No need to get snappy! Please, remain calm and civil. Thanks, 20:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Support as second choice - Would be a good idea in covering other areas neglected with the Sims project. It is my second choice however as this would actually cut coverage as well as expand it, SimCity DS and SimCity Societies are not covered by Maxis for example. Ways around it include ignoring the issue and covering these games anyway, or making it Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronic Arts, however this would expand the scope hugely and make the project less focused, but more active. Camaron | Chris(talk) 12:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
Oppose. While I support it in principle I think what we need here is more members, not a bigger scope. That will only make things more difficult. Task force for Maxis, please. (And Supuhstar: You say you dont want to lose the images: changing to WP:M would call for lots of new ones to be made ;). 08:31, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, well. Mayby I'll submit ideas. I'll probably like ehe maxis one. I just don't want a generic videogame logo! ;) — Supuhstar*§ 20:25, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Actually, most of the VG task forces have their own logo. And the new task forces from recent moves kept their old logos. No need to throw out perfectly good free images. (Guyinblack25talk 20:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC))
Oppose Maxis is defunct now. Hereford 17:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
What about a Maxis task force in WP:VGHereford 17:43, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Defunct???— Supuhstar*§ 19:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Maxis isn't defunct. What makes you think that?. — ( • ) 01:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
You might as well make it WikiProject Electronic Arts sense Maxis is a subsidiary of EA. BW21.--lackatch 22:33, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Neutral
Not being a member of this project, I'd like to remain neutral in this discussion (though I am technically in favor of merging with the VG project). I would, however, like to mention a few things to help give an outside perspective.
A little background- The Video games project's inactive clean up grew from a desire to improve the overall quality of the top-importance articles within its scope. We noticed that there were numerous projects and task forces that essentially disjointed the everyone's efforts. Since many of these were also inactive, it was decided to start merging them into the WP:VG to consolidate resources and efforts so everyone's articles could benefit.
Every project will always have inactive members. Of the 1000+ VG members in Category:WikiProject Video games members, the talk pages and various subpages see activity from maybe 10–20% of them. Basically, a bigger scope can lead to more members, but that doesn't always equate to more activity.
Operating as a Wikiproject has it's draw points, but so does operating as a task force. As a task force, all administrative duties would be handled by the VG project. There are already well established processes for peer reviews, assessments, style guidelines, etc. Being your own project will allow you more freedom to create and craft your own such processes. But I personally don't see the need when there are already processes you can use that can suit your needs. That's just my biased opinion though.
If you guys want to work on the Sims series or even Maxis as a task force, that's great. We can and are happy to help. If you want to do either of those as a project, that's fine too. This is only a suggestion, and don't want to strong arm anyone. (Guyinblack25talk 17:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC))